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If you have done it before it explains everything, if you havent been shown how to do this then you would be stupid to try it with only a youtube videos instruction. Hence perhaps the video is designed to only be a reminder to save idiots from themselves. pwned
This is not the correct way of Belaying a climber, because it doesn’t matter if you are useing a GRI-GRI or a ATC or a 8, always use the 5 Steps of belaying
Good practice would dictate that the right hand would take in as demo then moved down to the right thigh. left hand then moves to secure the dead rope, right hand moved back up to grigri then left back to live rope. as you would do with any other belay device.
Why try to teach something different? Teach the basics that could be improved.
Best practice is Good practice!!
A grigri is a goo piece of kit for walls and centres alike. Like every thing else it has its limitations. The grigri has been known to fail therefore on an instructional vid i would not expect to see the “un recomended” not only being the only thing that was explained but being demonstraited as well!!!
A good instructional vid would give an explanation on the correct set up and uses of different belay devices.
TBC……
All said the bird is quite nice and the facility looks prety good as well.
Ok – lets settle this once and for all.
He is using a GriGri, in essence all it is is a normal belay device with the added protection of being able to stop a fall if the belayers hand is not in the brake position. If you are taught to belay like this, and you then move to a conventional belay device, that does not have this feature you run the risk of incorrect belaying. LEARN HOW TO BELAY PROPERLY. Dont just rely on the grigri to take the falls! Nothing is 100% safe! Thumbs up so people know!
watch?v=ZgOACgsXz6U
Petzl supports this crap, their sponsered climbers and belayers belay th same way,
When your pro, and idolised, you set the standard. The reality is, I would evict anyone in my gym belaying anyting like this grigri or not.
To make sure that a person actually can belay safely a course of 4 hours divided in two parts is the way to go in Sweden. Many dont get the hang of it that easily and it is very easy to forget from one time to the next. Would you actually teach someone in 5 minutes and then just let them go climbing and belaying by themselves? you would have plenty of dead and injured climbers on your conscience…
i’m not sure if you all have ever use a grigri or not, but i have and you all are freaking out, belaying with a grigri is the easiest thing ever.you out the rope in, close the grigri, clip the carabiner to the harness, and pull the rope through. even with him belaying that way, courtney won’t get hurt because the grigri catches the climber…
if petzl saw this video.. that is really the worst iv’e seen somebody belay with grigri.. you are holding it with two fingers in open mode, how are you gonna be able to take a fall?
you should take this video away, so nobody watches this and get hurt. people shouldn’t learn how to belay on the internet, im an instructor and for me it takes 2 hours at least to teach somebody to belay, sometimes even more.
This is an “older” style of belay. The newer style doesn’t use the parallel rope method used here. The thought is that the braking distance (esp with traditional ATCs) is longer with the parallel method, and less safe. Perhaps that is what you’re referring to. Hope this helps!
this belay method is one of the poorest i’ve ever seen! Also, if you want to explain a grigri you need to explain how to load it, which is the easiest part to screw up!
all the idiots complaining should just shut the fuck up, there are lots of ways to belay.
Ummm maybe should be labeled how to belay unsafely in a climbing centre? Or bored of living? Let this plonker belay for you?
If you have done it before it explains everything, if you havent been shown how to do this then you would be stupid to try it with only a youtube videos instruction. Hence perhaps the video is designed to only be a reminder to save idiots from themselves. pwned
they fuck
This is a great video!
Linked it to my website:
altitude-climbing {dot} com
This is not the correct way of Belaying a climber, because it doesn’t matter if you are useing a GRI-GRI or a ATC or a 8, always use the 5 Steps of belaying
Yes I would have explained how to put rope in properly and where to attach ring.
please tell me you’re not still using a gri-gri with this technique..
well thats completely wrong
Good practice would dictate that the right hand would take in as demo then moved down to the right thigh. left hand then moves to secure the dead rope, right hand moved back up to grigri then left back to live rope. as you would do with any other belay device.
Why try to teach something different? Teach the basics that could be improved.
Best practice is Good practice!!
A grigri is a goo piece of kit for walls and centres alike. Like every thing else it has its limitations. The grigri has been known to fail therefore on an instructional vid i would not expect to see the “un recomended” not only being the only thing that was explained but being demonstraited as well!!!
A good instructional vid would give an explanation on the correct set up and uses of different belay devices.
TBC……
All said the bird is quite nice and the facility looks prety good as well.
Ok – lets settle this once and for all.
He is using a GriGri, in essence all it is is a normal belay device with the added protection of being able to stop a fall if the belayers hand is not in the brake position. If you are taught to belay like this, and you then move to a conventional belay device, that does not have this feature you run the risk of incorrect belaying. LEARN HOW TO BELAY PROPERLY. Dont just rely on the grigri to take the falls! Nothing is 100% safe! Thumbs up so people know!
watch?v=ZgOACgsXz6U
Petzl supports this crap, their sponsered climbers and belayers belay th same way,
When your pro, and idolised, you set the standard. The reality is, I would evict anyone in my gym belaying anyting like this grigri or not.
Kepp telling yourself that. Accidents happen on grigri’s and everyone figures it out eventualy.
To make sure that a person actually can belay safely a course of 4 hours divided in two parts is the way to go in Sweden. Many dont get the hang of it that easily and it is very easy to forget from one time to the next. Would you actually teach someone in 5 minutes and then just let them go climbing and belaying by themselves? you would have plenty of dead and injured climbers on your conscience…
i’m not sure if you all have ever use a grigri or not, but i have and you all are freaking out, belaying with a grigri is the easiest thing ever.you out the rope in, close the grigri, clip the carabiner to the harness, and pull the rope through. even with him belaying that way, courtney won’t get hurt because the grigri catches the climber…
if petzl saw this video.. that is really the worst iv’e seen somebody belay with grigri.. you are holding it with two fingers in open mode, how are you gonna be able to take a fall?
you should take this video away, so nobody watches this and get hurt. people shouldn’t learn how to belay on the internet, im an instructor and for me it takes 2 hours at least to teach somebody to belay, sometimes even more.
This is an “older” style of belay. The newer style doesn’t use the parallel rope method used here. The thought is that the braking distance (esp with traditional ATCs) is longer with the parallel method, and less safe. Perhaps that is what you’re referring to. Hope this helps!
im in a rock climbing class at my college.
and we were not taught this way…
pahaha me too, don’t ya luv FB
*adds courtney day on Facebook. bahahaha
when me and my brother try that climbing stuff, it ushally ends in him about to fall or him making me pull his but all the way to the top
this belay method is one of the poorest i’ve ever seen! Also, if you want to explain a grigri you need to explain how to load it, which is the easiest part to screw up!
Wow you literally explained nothing. Congratulations ehow on being totally useless
haha lol